Entitlement To Me-- TAKING MASSIVE ACTION, the RESULTS speak for themselves

Here's another podcast -- where I talk about what 'entitlement' means to me, well specifically haha. I was thinking about the subject of entitlement, specifically to girls I think would most go for me, and I'd have the easiest time with also-- and for now I feel entitled to mostly fat and average chicks.



LOL-- just kidding. Actually, I surprise myself a lot. Thinking about it, when I really WORKED AT MY GAME, WAS CONSISTENT about maintaining a sarge schedule, APPROACHING 50 sets a week at minimum, AND BEING A CLOSER from START TO FINISH… well then, I actually pulled some STUNNERS too. Like definitely 7s, 8s and 9s.

That's what makes me feel entitled to hot girls too. When I'm on point with my game, I'm really good-- historically speaking. I amaze myself-- Mentally I broke every single barrier in my head; even the one I thought was so hard for me to break-- that Asian girls didn't go for Indian guys (to date I've had more than 30 Asian girlfriends, including Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese and Chinese). I'm currently dating a cute Taiwanese girl.

That history is what makes me feel entitled even more now. When I'm out of 'state' of course, I feel like shit and think stupid thoughts like I can't get any of these girls-- that all Asian girls must like white guys or date within their race exclusively. It's easy to get sucked into that shit mentality; you see it everywhere being sold to you-- Hollywood media, spinster girls talking shit, 'gender wars' type flame forum boards, PUAhate, -- all these toxic environments. Plus, I look around and I don't see any other Indian guy really stepping up and kicking ass (it's far and WAY too few in between). That's why I feel entitled even more-- because I'm fucking UNIQUE in that retrospect, and it's MASSIVELY ATTRACTIVE-- when girls see a guy like me -- someone with more balls and CONVICTION to go after what he wants, they just can't but help think-- WHO IS THIS GUY? HE'S DIFFERENT. HOT.

When I'm out of state, and basically just in that bullshit mode of being generally lazy, blaming 'society' for my problems, while staying at home like a fucking 'shut in' watching Netflix and eating Domino's pizza-- it MAKES SENSE-- that I have NO GIRLS. I DIDN'T PUT IN ANY EFFORT that night. If a week goes by of me doing that SHIT, I HAVE MYSELF ONLY TO BLAME FOR THE FACT I HAD NO GIRLS THAT WHOLE WEEK. It's not SOCIETY'S FAULT, it was my FUCKING FAULT :)

I'm also of generally NO HELP to anyone when I'm out of state; including my good buddy wingmen who desperately want to fix their lack of girl situation. If I'm out of state, making bs excuses and they feel it-- they also feel less motivated, and probably want to associate less with me because of my toxicity. It works both ways too-- I steer clear of toxic people when I'm in state-- don't fucking rain on my parade, bitch :P.

Being in state, doesn't mean pumping myself up to max spaz emotions where I'm running around clubs like a chicken with my head cut off. It just means I've put myself out there a lot, and am finally at the point where I'm brave enough to walk up to stunners, banter with them like a BOSS, CUT through all the bullshit, REFRAME, REDIRECT conversations, leading to escalations, PLAYFULNESS, HUMOR, SILLINESS, KISSING, CHALLENGING, breaking rapport, finding more girls, adding to my social circles, getting TONS of NUMBERS, KISSES, feeling SUPREMELY good and satisfied with myself that I'm taking massive action to get stuff the things I REALLY WANT.. ETC. Being in state, like that SUPER power feeling, is just that feeling of CONTROL over myself-- to be really in the frequency I really want to be where I can get the kinds of girls I know I deserve-- not just some fat fuck or less than attractive girl people would just expect me to shut the fuck up and settle down with-- JUST ACCEPT HER AND MARRY ALREADY DAMMIT -- SO we can have some grandkids-- and you can be a MISERABLE little FUCKING CHODE like the rest of us staring at our BULLSHIT FACEBOOKS on our SMART PHONES all the fucking time WISHING FOR BETTER BUT NOT TAKING ANY ACTION. (Lol, sometimes I make fun of people that way as part of my routine-- a little bit of a rant there, but haha-- who the FUCK wants to be a member of a society where we're always seeking validation from each other and living so fucking insecure)? I'd rather have CORE CONFIDENCE and the ability to do and say whatever the FUCK I want to-- without alcohol, without drugs-- no temporary high shit, just pure sustained highs from long term daily exercises that build up my core confidence.

I know people also respect me more when I'm definitely keeping up with things I set out to do for myself. Not just girls, but let's say I'm on point with my job-- my peers respect me even more, and I get ample more opportunity. I make more money-- so I can travel to do more things like go to cool places, network with smarter people and learn things that will make me even smarter in my career. If I were to just be fucking lazy, and not do my daily job-- I'd not only rust in my skill, but eventually my peers would be like what the FUCK. Then they'd take away jobs from me-- give it to someone else, and the STRUGGLE would be that much harder. Same with the gym-- If I forget about it a couple times in a week, or just eat shitty throughout the week saying I'll do better next week-- guess what-- I LOST A FUCKING WEEK and it made me that much WORSE. I feel sluggish, STUPID, more excuse making, more likely to go back home and jerk off to net porn or watch endless hours of Netflix-- trying to LEACH off someone else's STATE for temporary highs instead of generating and cultivating my OWN sustainable highs for long term.

Honestly, that's what entitlement really means to me-- it's knowing that when I'm on point, I can get the results I want. The history just speaks to me from that space. I've attracted EVERY kind of race possible-- I know this for sure, and definitely had my share of makeouts and fucks with different races beyond just Asian--- again it goes back to the idea that I'm DIFFERENT, when girls see a guy like me doing things my RACE shouldn't be able to do; it fucking makes them wet their panties.

Do you also see what I'm doing here? I'm basically gaming myself through this blog post-- and that is super my intention. I want to be able to come back here, re-read this, re-listen to this; so any time I feel out of state, I can just see this motivational speech-- and know it in my heart I have what it takes to get the job done. MOTIVATION is A LOT of SELF TALK-- sometimes to the point of extreme NARCISSISM, but at least it gets you out of the building into the fires-- where you become a fucking BOSS and MASSIVELY TAKE ACTION. (Then enjoy the results of your hard work for later lol -- I certainly am now -- thank you my pretty). At the end of the day, to really motivate yourself, you have to SELF TALK A LOT ("How bad do you want it bitch? I want it.. I want it bad, I want to get the fuck outta here and meet some stunners, I did it before, They love a guy like me, I'm different and a badass, my wingmen tell me that shit all the time"). Being like a wolf attacking a piece of meat; you are the source of your own validation, so you're pumping yourself up to go get that piece of meat and not let it go. I feel like pictures of goals you want are really helpful-- invade all your comfortable spaces with pictures of the things you want-- then you'll go after it that much harder; say you want a stunner-- put pictures of you kissed before that you believed you couldn't get, then use that as motivation to go out and get it tonight. Same with traveling goals or money goals; put pictures of places you went before and now what you want to do even further-- and get there. Tokyo, Hong Kong, France, etc. Plaster it all over your spaces-- so you see it every day and keep yourself on POINT with achieving the goal. A beachbody? Do it-- plaster those pics until that is YOU. We ultimately are the SUM of our good or bad daily habits-- you could take a week off and NOT do shit, but guess what-- sum that up over a month, and you'll just be the sum of SHIT. Why not be the SUM of COOL by getting badass shit done daily? Be a fucking BOSS-- and reach your goals.

Finally, in this podcast, I talk about what I ultimately want from doing all this-- a lot of people have asked me from the get-go, and I've never really been able to answer it. I think now, after being out there so long, I can finally say that I know what I'm looking for.

I want either one of these destinies:

• Be a playboy for the rest of my life, living in total abundance absolutely KILLING IT every night
• OR (more realistically) find a girl from a circle of good girls I've been going out with, she'd ultimately be the one I'd want to have kids with too-- and marry her.

I want to get married like any other guy for sure, but not the 'BAD' kind of marriage -- the one where you're just expected to get married because of societal/parental pressure to pop out some kids, then end in failure and divorce. Fuck that shit.

For me, getting married is all about me finding a girl who allows me to be myself around her (not my bullshit chode self that doesn't get anything done). At the same time, I don't want to have to constantly 'game' her and she shouldn't have to constantly 'game' me for the relationship to work-- basically what I'm saying here is I shouldn't always have to be making out with other girls, creating jealously plots to keep the other in check… we've moved past that phase of the relationship, and now being together is about us doing things together-- like taking trips to places, motivating each other to achieve goals we set for ourselves-- ideally, the best situation would be where we can put aside the 'looking for someone -- taking massive action goal' (aka pickup) for a while (assessing every 6 or 12 months later if we want to continue to be with each other), and focusing on other goals we set for ourselves (such as making money, travelling, learning a new skill, etc).

If I meet a quality girl like that, from a pool of stunners (no fats, no avgs), I'm content with getting in an LTR. That extra step of marriage would be from assessing if we really still like each other as much as we did when we first met-- the relationship just got that much better, and I'd want to ultimately make her my baby mama. I think if I feel those extreme feelings of awesomeness, yeah I'd be like marriage time. Ultimately, if I don't-- then I'm content with the other fate of continuing to be a badass, improving myself and pulling stunners. (Though secretly somehow I know, I'll end up pulling a beautiful girl and wifing her up lol). I want to find my Beyonce if I'm a fucking Jay Z-- we make each other better.

Hope you enjoyed this post, I definitely enjoyed writing it-- now off to be a badass. Circle back with me every now and then and share your thoughts. Otherwise, thanks for listening (and reading). - Cloud

Motivating Yourself to Be Successful, Nights out in K-Town, Why Validation Loops Suck

What's up! I had some time to make some new audio reports over the weekend-- here's the latest fresh stuff from my brain:


The first one I talk mostly about my experiences going out in general, then later going to K-Town, where I met a lot of people 'trying really hard' to be 'cool'. It's funny to me how affected some people are by 'mainstream media', and I think if you were to take a trip down to K-Town at night-- you too would see it:

• Girls dressed to the nine, cursing, drinking, smoking, throwing up on the streets, rejecting men left and right getting huge ego boosts, basically though destroying themselves in the process
• Guys trying super hard to get girls attention (in chody ways), spending a TON of money, looking generally miserable, or fighting really hard with other guys to prove they are 'alpha', especially to keep a 'girl' they think they 'own'
• Conversations are emotionally charged, not logical-- people, even the 'intelligent, college educated' ones make poor decisions based on wanting the 'temporary high', how it's a vicious loop
• How one, even myself, gets caught up in vicious loops of temporary highs and then feeling super low and miserable later -- how motivating myself out of it is realizing it's a trap; and I would rather work towards building something that gradually improves my life all the time-- a sustainable high that is organic and not 'fake'; something that took years to develop but now is 'real', makes me have more confidence in myself and love life
• How you can start telling who is really 'core-confident', and who's just putting on an act; using that to screen your own life decisions and people you associate with by doing pickup

I also want to say I'm really thankful to Tyler / Julien-- who I met these last months at various hot seats, seminars in LA that have helped me realize these things

Motivation is a lot of work-- in this second audio, I talk about how it's so easy to 'shut yourself in', from society and say 'reality sucks'. But shutting yourself in only perpetuates that 'vicious loop', where you also get caught in believing you have no control over the way things are-- that you too are a 'victim' of mainstream society. Ultimately, you also want validation, just like everyone else.



I would rather focus on building core confidence, by doing things that make me slightly uncomfortable, even if that means dealing with difficult people. By dealing with difficult people and difficult scenarios, especially the 'emotionally charged' conversations-- I learn how to maneuver through them, and also how to accept people for their 'good' and 'bad' sides.

No one is inherently 'perfect', there's no 'ideal girlfriend' who will be cute to you all the time. A lot of times, your 'cuddly' ideal girl will also be stuck up, rude, obnoxious-- at times. Learning to deal with that, is super important because it helps you prepare for having a real relationship with a girl.

This is why I believe day and night game are both important-- you see people acting their 'best' and 'worst' fast-- and you learn how to deal with it; plus you get better at choosing how you deal with it, ultimately making you better too as a person. That is what I believe, allows you to have control over a potentially 'sucky' reality. You do have control; if you work at this-- you can carve out your own slice of life that rocks-- and people are in it that you love (and hate), but still overall-- it's a better place to be for you on a daily basis than being a 'victim'.

Finally in this last audio, I talk about how doing this stuff is a lot of SELF TALK. You really have to motivate yourself DAILY to get yourself to TAKE ACTION. Find ways to really motivate yourself, one of my ideas is to have a picture of something you want-- and then save it somehow so you always see it-- that way you convince yourself to want it bad enough to the point you work to finally getting it.

Ultimately, I think by meeting your goals in life, that's what will keep you smiling and living well; living large because of your own hard work, not because you're pretending to be 'cool', living in the temporary highs of life -- only to throw your life down the shitter and your destiny to the wayside when old age finally hits you and time has run out. I would rather be a 30 year old in super shape than a 30 year old victim with no options left in life.

Thanks for listening, have a great day!

Cloud

Anime Expo Weekend

Hey all -- new podcast!  Went out to Anime Expo this weekend, some thoughts I share from the experience plus my views up to date as of late:


Enjoy!

- Cloud

Hotseat 3 Notes 5-11-13

Went to Hotseat with Tyler this weekend, basically what follows is my account of everything that Tyler spoke about (writing it while still fresh in my mind).   My thoughts also included (below).  

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Tyler’s view of the modern world (men + women)

• The average girl lives in sexual abundance from her 20s to early 30s, after that it fades away like crazy and she becomes desperate to find a stable quality guy
• Most girls have had sexual encounters with other women, have tried various drugs, threesomes -- all in the name of ‘fun’

• ‘Fun’ is very much tied to the idea of being present and staying focused on being in the moment.  This is even more so crucial when seducing a girl-- a girl may want to do ‘crazy sexual things’ but may not have the courage to do so, unless you are the guy who can open it up to her.  (She doesn’t want to be responsible for it happening, but if you can tie it all in the name of fun, she will do so because the energy she’s getting from you is really great).

• The average girl is hit on by a small percent of confident guys out of all the guys in the population; which is still a huge number; so her view of guys is biased; most hot girls believe that guys have as much opportunity as them to meet other women as a result of this.

• Most men of today are living in denial, even though they might be slightly aware of how liberated girls are, they constantly downplay it and would rather NOT approach a girl they might perceive to be a “SLUT” because they just want to meet the perfect virgin girl by fate/destiny who’s also great in bed ... but that girl doesn’t exist -- she CAN’T exist.. its a logical paradox.

• Most dudes who wish for the ‘virgin’ gf are out of luck; dating is for the ‘guy’ not so much the girl-- guys want to believe their women would never be a ‘slut’; that their woman is ‘special’--  so the women they date act that way and hold off as long as possible on sex because they don’t want to reveal their ‘inner ways' and break up a good thing -- but at the same time these women will still cheat with other men and women on the side discretely anyway.

• Why do women hook up with loser/abusive guys or even other women?  Because it’s easier for them to experiment and have fun; not be as committed -- most guys that are 'nice guys' want to tie these girls down from the get-go, which generally scares a lot of the young girls who still want to play the field.  Loser guys / other women on the other hand don’t give a fuck.  The guys who are super successful with these women fuck hundreds of women who look like them all the time; hence they already feel entitled to the sex; the chode guys SEVERELY lack entitlement, hence they spend much of their time/money chasing after the same girls who get dumped by loser bfs or just jacking off and hating on the internet.

• We as men are LOSING OUT daily because the reality of women cheating is TOO FAR outside our scope of what we pertain reality to be that we cover up for it or don’t believe it at all.  
• Societal conditioning programs us to think girls aren’t all sluts, only a select few in the bars are; ‘good’ girls won’t have sex with random guys -- thus we believe someone is ‘out’ there for us and we don’t have to work that hard to find her-- destiny will guide us there.. to the ‘one’ magical girl.
• There is no ‘one’ magical girl; the GAME is the GAME.  Every time you go out, if you do the same nice guy routine over and over, you will get the same result you got last time-- no matter how long you drag it out.  This is the definition of insanity.
• Most men will never have the sexual abundance that women do; nor will the women that have it ever tell the guys they end up with about it; for fear the guy will judge them and leave them for it.
• Men don’t want to approach because society conditions us to have negative perceptions about pickup -- that it’s not NORMAL; yet at the same time that same societal conditioning is what’s draining our wallets, causing us to lose our girlfriends, and ultimately keep us slaves to the overall media machine.
• Men typically find it easier to bury themselves in work or workouts than to flirt with a woman they like... it's much harder on the ego to take constant rejection; thus we don’t face the fear.
• Picking up girls is HARD, and if your ego is constantly being bruised, though you’ve been successful everywhere else; why would you want to spend your time being torn down by girls who don’t have even half your accomplishment every night?  Guys who might have money and looks, still can be chodes because they expect the girls to like and respect them for their ‘hard work in life’-- but this is a fallacy; no girl cares about how hard you worked, they just want to know how good you are at making them feel in the moment; how you learn to effectively read and communicate to them emotionally is KEY.  This is why pickup is so good for you-- it trains your mind to get better at having solid interactions, which most men FAIL at.

• Tyler considers himself a 1%er-- that is, 1%ers are the number of guys who are successful in this world; e.g. with women, money.  The difference between a guy like him and the other 99% of people who live poor and in poverty mentality is that he has the ability to FOCUS.  Successful people can FOCUS on something for hours, even something simple like reading, or studying/working.   People who are UNSUCCESSFUL in life are STIMULUS JUNKIES-- obsessed with the latest ‘shiny’ thing, because we live in a time where we are surrounded with constant bombardment of distractions-- junk food, technology, Facebook, cheap thrills, instant gratification.  

• As a result, most people, ESPECIALLY modern day girls DO NOT have to work hard or focus on anything; most girls he meets in the bars are running around the club jumping at the chance to do anything fun.   The more fun it is, the more they’ll gravitate to that direction.  This is why it’s HARD to meet a girl of QUALITY in this day and age -- most girls are STUPID because they don’t EVER have to work hard to get a guy’s attraction; they live in abundance, get free shit all the time; even if they’re fat or ugly, they have more options than you as a guy will ever have.   And if there are no guys, they are content with hooking up with women too.

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Tyler’s style of ‘Game’ 2013

• When I first saw Tyler in 2011 or whenever, I was blown away by how fast he could get into sets; basically he could just open a girl with ‘who are you?’, shake their hand and be in conversation right away.
• Where I stumbled was with what to do afterwards-- over time of course, I learned to stay charming, be present to the moment, not judge, lead and escalate, and through that process I got laid fairly often in 2012.
• I messed up a lot though because I would get needy for the girls I was dating; expecting that after having sex with them or whatever that they would be my girlfriend-- it was a painful thing to realize that most girls just wanted to continue dating while staying in a casual relationship (not exclusive -- I guess I had wanted a solid girlfriend from the start-- which depressed me for the rest of 2012 and into 2013).
• By the end of 2012, I assessed that I was simply a ‘backburner’ option for many of the girls I had met.  Even though I was playing good game-- I realized a lot of the girls I’d been seeing had other options, were constantly pitting me against these other options (in comparison); and if I gave them so much as a slight reason to drop me -- perhaps low self esteem, neediness, insecurity with my job situation, ‘pushing hard for sex/relationship’, or being ‘cheap’, it would happen.  
• This is what caused me to take myself seriously in 2013, since then I have been SUPER focused on being in shape, making money, having my lifestyle together; etc.   I wrote out all the areas I’d like to improve in, timeframes, and tasks needed to get there.  You could say improving my game in summer was a big thing too- which led me up to exploring Hotseat 3.  Tyler seemed to be having MASSIVE results, more so than I’d ever accomplished, and I wanted to know why/how... what had changed?

• In 2013, Tyler is still doing the same thing but MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE, especially from the get-go. Breaking it down here is a recap of his signature moves as I saw them in the videos:
• Sees girl -- immediately pulls her or grabs her out of crowd, brings her into his arm; as he is doing it, authoritatively he commands “HEY-- Who are you?” or “Who the FUCK are YOU?”

• LOUD, Authoritative dominance over their frame while inserting his own frame of ABSURD, HUMOROUS REALITY / REALITY SHIFTING on them (instead of them doing to him vice versa-- e.g. having to leave, find their friends, calling him creepy) while having a frame of total fun -- no worry if it blows out
• Examples:
• “SLUT” / “DOG” / “WHORE” in a loud voice
• Would you fuck a man like me with a tiny penis? Want to touch it? *Goes into thread how he’s a master licker while putting girl’s hand on his cock*
• “STOP WHAT YOU’RE DOING and COME with me so I can molest you in that alley over there”
• RACIAL COMMENTS - “You’re a fucking mexican taco bell chick”, “Shut the fuck up you white trash filthy whore, you have no future.... you work at Wendy’s”...
• I hate you / I love you - cognitive dissonance threads
• YOU'RE MY SLUT, then looking at some other girl and saying he FUCKS WHORES LIKE THIS EVERY NIGHT, could have been YOU
• You look Asian-- to a white girl; guessing her race as the wrong thing
• Deliberate misinterpretation of the girl possibly coming onto him, especially in loud environments
• Shutting down their threads of having to go with absurd demands (make out with me right now, you’re my slut, oh how I’ve missed you, I date jailbait, come with me over there (no further explanation just super authoritative-- extracting her from friends/environment)
• Hypnosis - reference to Rick H, Ross Jeffries
• I'm only into girls that like other girls.. is that you? --that way he opens up possibility of threesomes
• Making up plots together with girls to get rid of the boyfriend; authoritatively telling her to tell the other guy that Tyler is gay and she just wants to make a new friend-- then getting her number or letting Tyler have permission to escalate on her
• The LOUD voice helps him especially with getting girls to just come with him somewhere-- he’ll stand over and over in front of them, saying the same stupid thing -- GO, FOOD, LET’S GO, DURR, FOOD, GO, LET’S GO.   Because it’s authoritative, the girls eventually submit and want to go with him, because he says they are stimulus junkies and they like the fact he is asserting dominance.
• Saying he just has a quick question, then asking friends of girl if he can talk to her for 2 minutes; bribing friends for ‘future’ possibilities as a way to shake them off..

• He has a QUICK & MASSIVE KINO ESCALATION CYCLE - as he’s bullshitting to girls holding them close to him, or asserting dominant style:
• He picks them up from the waist, spins the girl around
• Sometimes he’ll spin the girl around from a handshake opener (Julien talked about this too)
• Lots of pulling her close to him, kissing almost on first meet, or easing her into a kiss
• Sometimes he’ll just grab the girl, pick her up and walk off with her -- complete extraction from a set so he can start his instadate.
• A lot of times his entire opener to a grab with the girl in his arms is less than 30 seconds.
• If it fucks up, or the girl feels he’s being too pushy, he’ll apologize and go backwards a few steps.  But he’ll come on to them again and again and again each time..  he said he’s done at least 20-30 apologies at times with girls before he finally slept with them.
• Backing up and saying sorry, sorry while still continuing conversation gets her to relax if she feels pressured/uncomfortable
• “Fine throw me away like a piece of garbage” - if a girl resists his advances
• Make it seem like she's coming on hard to you.

• He’ll pit girls against each other to drive up his overall perceived ‘attraction’
• Will get one girl with him, pull another complete random girl into set, have the two talk to each other, while they talk to him; at the same time they wonder what about the other is attracted to the guy their with... as if Tyler is some big shot

• SUPER QUICK EXTRACTION -- he’ll take girls who are attracted almost instantly with him somewhere; anywhere-- he’ll just grab by the hand and lead -- e,g. “Let’s grab tacos”, “let’s find a place to sit”, “I’ll drive”.
• He is quick to pick up girls, especially if he feels the attraction and take them with him into a taxi-- back to wherever his hotel is.

• On average about 5-15 minutes with each set upon open, if it takes longer he moves quickly and finds other girls too (especially if no number yet or further physical escalation).
• If he gets a number, he'll try to call them later that night or next day to hang out.  He will act like a drunk gay best friend to get them to send him their address, then just show up to fuck them.

• KISSING
• Pay attention to eye contact -- the ANIME EYES as Tyler says.
• Girls who are really into you can’t take their eyes off you, especially if you’ve been playing great game from the get-go.   Most will hold their gaze and continue to talk to you while smiling or playing with their hair, laughing.
• Another great way to test their readiness to kiss you is how far you can go into their personal space with your face; seeing if they break eye contact.  
• If she doesn’t break eye contact, you’re good to go, you can kiss her.
• Even better, if she starts staring at your lips, you know she’s thinking about kissing again.
• Fluff while kissing is great, keep her mind distracted while you push in harder on her

• HANDLING SHIT
• If a set’s not going well, he’ll instantly pull another girl and start talking to her; possibly even makeout with that girl in front of the other girl, who then will later open up because she gets horny too.
• (He did this to a chick on the phone who wouldn’t open up to him initially, but later saw that he had made out with her friend before so then lowered her guard; and also to a girl from NY who kept saying she wasn’t into him, but he kept showing her he was ‘perfection’, by pulling other girls in front of her, being super balsy, etc.)
• He’ll also bring in another girl he’ll pull into set, introduce them to each other and at the same time make them feel insecure about each other while wondering about him -- why he’s so attractive to the other.

• COGNITIVE DISSONANCE
• Probably a HUGE component in Tyler’s game (I think he took this from Julien)-- as he’s escalating physically and fast-- he’s also saying stuff to the girls that doesn’t match what he’s doing at all--
• For example the SLUT / BITCH / WHORE / DOG threads-- he’s basically calling girls names while giving them lots of affection kino-wise, pulling them in close to him, or picking up them up and spinning them around.  
• Additionally, he makes it seem that he’s the innocent guy, that the girls have some mystical powers of seduction over him / that they are some sexual deviant hitting on him -- so he’ll say things like “STOP IT”, “WE’RE GOING TOO FAST, SLOW DOWN”,yet he’s pushing HARD on them and escalating..
• Even in reframes for later, when friends of the girl ask how the girl met him; he’ll say she came on to her; re-enacting pickup as if the girl did it in some cheesy manner (usually making the girl laugh).

• FLUFF with lots of ironic self deprecation / situational conversation / I FEEL HE’S ALSO SCREENING HERE
• Talking about where he’s from, where she’s from
• Parents / Towns they grew up in
• Travel / Parts of the world they’ve seen
• Eating healthy / Healthy lifestyles
• Analyzing each others’ fashion, cold-reading
• If friends are present, pulling them in, asking how they knew each other
• Pictures in his phone, (pictures of him with kids make the girls more attracted because they feel maternal instinct)
• Sexual topics -- if the girl is very sexually open, his tiny dick, master licker, anal sex, talking about filling her up with his semen and impregnating her with a pasty white baby (playing up his race)

• WALKING WITH THEM as a way to build rapport / trust
• Especially if they’re moving; showed us some sets like a Japanese girl he walked and talked with only to find the guy she was with was some guy who wanted to be her bf, but she was more interested in Tyler.

• STANDING IN FRONT OF THEM, NOT LEAVING even if it’s awkward as fuck
• If the girl doesn’t leave, you are free to keep talking to her, as it’s a public place; you have the freedom to talk to anyone, she has the freedom to shut it down at any time.
• He talked to some bartender chick awkwardly for 15 minutes, but because he kept up the persistence and built comfort, he was able to get her through just basic persuasion to grab some food together.

• Handling cockblock friends
• Teasing the cockblock friends in their face to get them to take the girl away from him.
• BRIBING THEM POTENTIALLY with future stuff -- good dinners, being awesome boyfriend, drinks etc; seems to work well especially with Asians who like free stuff
• Saying the girl is totally into his type-- ‘pasty white’, looking for a guy like that
• Wingmen aka Julien, Brad, Alex - coming to step in for mothers/fat friends
• His ‘girlfriend’ as the ultimate wingwoman’ - definitely in the authoritative stages; if Tyler wants to try for a makeout with another girl (aka threeway kiss).  (It felt like Tyler was emulating Jeffy from Jeffy’s book Nineball-- where Jeffy would take his bisexual girl to clubs and game other girls together as a team).

• GETTING LAID
• Especially from cold-approach pickup, he says sometimes it takes on average 10 hours from meet to fuck.   Most of the long parts come towards the end at the girl’s house where he deals with resistance; he says he is successful lying in bed with the girl together, but has an enormous erection which he has to masturbate off in the bathroom to be able to keep ‘gaming’ the girl while lying together.  Ultimately by the end of the night or morning, she’s warmed up and ready to fuck.  Most girls will just want to fuck because of the long hours of comfort together in bed.
• The way he invites himself in, is by asking if he can pee real quick
• Tyler also says most girls will fuck him because they are just bored..
• After Tyler fucks them, they blow up his phone with texts always wanting to know what he’s up to and if he can come over to fuck some more..

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Additional Thoughts from Tyler

• If girls are calling you ‘player’ but you’re still not in abundance yet, don’t fret-- you’re very close to getting laid a lot-- your game is very close to being good enough to pull.
• Shows like Entourage - Ari Gold, is a great character, he acts just like a douche that most girls would find attractive because he walks around ENTITLED all the time.
• On Californication, Tyler believes the lines are fucking genius, but ultimately it’s not about wit in reality; it’s about how great you are with reading and picking up on nonverbal communication and social cues -- which can only be built from experience going out.
• The reason your penis doesn’t get hard for a hot girl you see in real life is because you DON’T FEEL ENTITLED TO IT.  But if you saw the same hot girl in a porn on your computer, you would get hard because you FEEL ENTITLED TO THE PORN.  Your mind has basically tricked you in real life that you shouldn’t have sex with the girl you see for real because you are afraid of rejection/embarrassment/failure.  You need to train your brain to feel entitled, which then will propel you to get a boner in real life when you see her and then you can walk over to her and convey that you are man looking to fuck a woman-- and she’ll pick up on it.
• Tyler eats at Tendergreens restaurant (as part of his paleo diet -- basically veggies and lean meat only -- no carbs/sugars (unless natural)-- to stay in shape); he also doesn’t drink or take drugs-- because it fucks up his best ‘weapon’ -- his brain, which he uses to full extent in the field (like some evil genius).  
• Most people take drugs / alcohol because it provides them stimulus; but again it’s poor man thinking, he’s not a poor man-- he takes the hard route to be mmmm richer... lol

• As a man, must take care of your life for YOURSELF because that’s fucking important-- sex is not the only thing in life-- you need money, wisdom, travel, health..., but at the same time, if you are doing those things, don’t be a chode and sit in the house making up excuses about going out when it’s finally time to -- JUST GO OUT.  PICKUP IS AS MUCH OF A LIFE SKILL AS EVERYTHING ELSE -- ONE THAT YOU MUST TAKE CARE OF.. otherwise you’ll just be very successful at having a job but no women.
• When you approach, these are the main points to consider:
• Are you clear in intent? -- Does the girl feel it?  (Are you communicating to her like a man who’s interested in for her being a woman?)
• Are you present to the moment?
• Are you building momentum? -- Every rejection is a state builder
• Focus on number of interactions you have, and not bullshit things like going on dates spread far and in between
• Approach every girl that night, even a simple tap on the shoulder works if you’re just trying to warm up.  If they ignore you, go on to next set QUICKLY
• Treat this Hotseat as if you paid $3000 for it; or a high amount of money for it; if you don’t apply the knowledge you learn from here you are a fool wasting his money.   Tyler spent his hard earned money in his early years because he really wanted to learn this stuff.  You should have that same fervor-- (I think in ways too, Tyler might be looking to find the next guy who continues the pickup legacy).

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My Thoughts

• Tyler is definitely WAY MORE HARDCORE than when I first met him 2011.
• You can tell he definitely has spent his past few years really pushing himself in terms of doing pickup and pushing himself to the limit (and even further beyond).
• I really think he took the route of Jeffy and recently mixed in Julien’s style as well-- basically he’s more authoritative and loud like Jeffy was in Nineball; and more ‘evil’ in terms of confusing a girl like Julien is with cognitive dissonance.
• I watch him because I feel I have reached my limits in terms of pickup; I basically game still like a ‘nice guy’ with some elements of douchebaggery here and there, but haven’t been able to progress further than that.  I have some results here and there, but it’s nowhere even close to the reality of Tyler or even his instructors...so for me to get to that level, I have to see it, have to internalize it; hence why I took Hotseat -- to see what’s further possible and begin to set goals to get there.

• Some criticism from the other guys in the group was that “Tyler might be at a level we’ll never get to”, because he focused all his efforts into picking up 24/7.   The average guy can’t go out like he can because we all have jobs/responsibilities; his only job and responsibility is his pickup.  I partly think this is true, but again I hope to push past my own limits and achieve greatness further than what I presently have for myself at the moment-- not really looking to compete with Tyler, just be inspired.  

• Tyler’s views on women is borderline misogynistic.   It’s funny to hear him talk about women as ‘sluts’, ‘whores’, ‘dumbasses’, pretty much flowers rotting into old age by their early 30s... but at the same time everything he says is also kinda scary-- because you wonder if you’ll adopt the same views about women some day too, by taking this path..   I sometimes wonder if he’s jaded by his massive experience in the field, and if because he’s the main man behind RSD selling us a business; he’s doing it just for the money and in all reality he might really hate fucking the women he meets in the field... it’s all like some sideshow thing because he’s in the spotlight so much.   He says he wants to meet a quality woman-- but at the same time he says 90% of women in Hollywood are whores--- so why is he hanging out there?  What is quality to him?  Has he found it?  I think he rationalized to us that at the moment he’s just content being like ‘George Clooney’ and never marrying, rather picking up young hot women and having great sex.. even if there is no further future beyond that.

• Still-- MAKE NO MISTAKE, his method is helping attract A LOT of women, and getting him tons of makeouts and sex.

• Tyler said many of his pickup interactions are like ‘bad porn’.   I actually believe that; in my youth I used to watch A LOT of bad porn, and I remember how the interactions were so weird and awkward.  In my own adult life, weaning myself off of porn and replacing that with interactions with real women; I feel like the scripts are all awkward and bad which is probably a testament to porn-- in a way life is like bad porn, but hey- you still can get laid, which is a pretty good analogy.

• I’m done with dating; I believe that interactions are way more fun than going on ‘dates’ with girls, even from ‘online’ or wherever.  To me, you can have way more interactions than dates in one night, and you know if a girl is into you MUCH FASTER than if you were to waste days writing messages to each other.  Plus, real life dating is such a waste of time too-- if you date a girl, you just put her in courtship mode so she will hold off on having sex with you.  That’s fucking retarded, you should always push for sex from the get-go and set the frame properly.   Tyler has sex with girls and then they learn he’s a successful businessman, whom they want-- rather than he explain to her through a series of dates that he’s successful and convince her to finally sleep with him (which could be months later).  I totally agree with this idea.

• In any case, I’m going to use all the knowledge I gained from Hotseat 3 to help me propel my game this summer.  I needed a fresh perspective, and I definitely am going to incorporate elements of Tyler’s new style into my own game so I can be more successful.  I believe that in order for me to succeed with women, I have to be committed now, more than ever to go out and really build on my current pickup skillsets to go from ‘okay’ to ‘really good’ to MASSIVELY GOOD.  

Online Dating Failings & Realizing Real World Rocks 3-9-13

Como esta everyone? (Hopefully I conjugated that right for Spanish, Spanglish lol).   Anyway, it's been a while so I thought I'd write up another report, just 'cause I feel like it, and yesterday night was pretty epic, and of course-- I feel like I have some new thoughts I want to 'save' for the 'game'.  Save game.

Last night, I went to go spy on this girl that I met on OKCupid.  I hate the shit out of OKCupid, but again I digress- we can talk about that later.  I never got to meet this in real life, so you could say that this was sorta psychotic behavior on my part.  And maybe you'd be right, but hear my side of the story.

I originally sent this girl an opening email on that shitty site along the lines of "What's your favorite chocolate?"  She took two months to respond back.   Then we began talking almost every day.   At first I didn't think much anything of it, but I guess somewhere along the emails, she really began opening up to me and telling me everything about herself.   She worked at Abercrombie & Fitch, she just finished Pharmacy School, thought I was cute-- everything seemed to be going well in my favor.    So I asked her to hang out with me in real life.   She said she wanted to, but she was on some crazy work schedule being a 'doctor' now, and I'd have to wait.  At least til mid March.   (So to get time-frame in order, this was like back in February or whatever).  

I didn't really know what to say to her, I didn't want to be like "Okay you're just not that interested, fuck off-- or whatever"; I felt that she might she really like me and might really be interested in seeing me in mid March.   So I just kept the conversation going; I joked we could play some fun email games til she was ready-- one I love to play is "2 truths & a lie".  It works really well actually for online dating -- cause each party has to think up something random about themselves (which people love to do anyway), and also make up something they wish they did, or want to see if it will scare the pants off the other person just for fun (which people love to do as well).    Hence you can see where this is going; the 2 truths & a lie (aka 2T&L) game made for some awesome conversation.   It basically allowed me to talk to this girl pretty much all the time, without the conversation going stale, 'cause it was always somewhat interesting trying to guess the other person's lie.

So we continued talking for like the rest of the month (and in retrospect, I think we talked almost like 1 1/2 months).   Over the course of that time period, I found myself really connected to her.   Okay, so this is where I started to become a chode lol.   I felt like she was becoming more connected to me too-- I started joking to her she was my girlfriend already-- online.   That was sorta my greeting to her.   She didn't reject the idea, our conversations were always silly and sweet.   She asked me to find her on Facebook, so I did.   (I actually didn't want to, I have a policy about not adding someone from the online the world on Facebook until we've met a few times in real life and hit it off).  But I guess I broke that policy! Lol.

It got worse though; after some time I started to obsess over her-- because I was like, damn I wish I could meet her-- she and I have so much rapport right now.   I would think about her a lot, like.. I'd start to stare at my cell phone more just to see if there was any little new notification icon to let me know I had received a new OKC email from her like every few hours.   If I didn't see that little notification, I'd be slightly depressed.   It would be like I wasn't able to start my day without a bit of online love sent my way.  That's when you know you're in 'love'.  Lol.   The feeling of -- desire, the need to want..  

In the back of my head though, I knew I was being an idiot.  I even stopped myself from obsessing and tried to just play it cool.   I looked at other girls on that dating site (but most of 'em were whales or rude or both plus couldn't compare).   I went out in real life, hung out with people from Meetup groups, talked to girls there, got numbers.   So even though I was obsessing slightly over this one girl, I still felt like I was doing the right thing for myself by keeping my options open.   Adding realism to my life helped me come to the realization she might also be keeping her options open too and talking to other men.   It's just the way it is man.

But she went on silent on me one day.   We were having so much fun conversation, and I was definitely planning with her to get her to come out in real life to see me.   We had talked about where we might go, scheduling, etc.   But then she just went completely silent.   When I didn't get a notification icon that day, I was like -- "she's busy, I'll just give her like another day to write back."  But then, another day went by, and then another.   I started to feel really stressed out.   WTF.   What happened to your email response?  

At that point, I thought about sending her a follow up email.   (One other time, she didn't respond for a day or so, so I emailed a follow up email that was short, and we resumed talking-- like nothing happened).   I thought of sending one, but I decided to just wait it out.   To see how long it would take for her to get back to me.    The worst part about OKCupid is that it shows you when the person you like was last online.   Whenever I'd go online there, I'd see that she had been online a few hours ago, but still hadn't replied to me.

I waited more days though, but depression really started to sink in.   I realized she was probably seeing some other dude, or whatever.   I just wish she had the decency to at the very least, to tell me she was seeing somone else, or that she wasn't interested any longer.    I wrote her a small follow up email, and told her I was going to get off OKCupid and if she wanted to keep in touch, she could message me on FB.   No response to that either.   Nothing at all man.

I told my good friend Sifu about this whole incident.   He told me to look up the definition of insanity, which basically was the old saying,
"Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

In my case, I have been doing the same thing over and over again (which is online dating) and expecting different results with these kind of women (the ones who never meet you in real life and just prefer to keep you in email limbo).    She was the fourth girl I had talked to on OKCupid where I had long lengthy email conversations, but we had exchanged numbers, Facebooks, etc-- where I thought things were going to go well and we'd meet someday.    But all, in all-- this girl included; meetups just never happened.   In the case of the other girls, if I pushed too hard on them to come out, they'd go silent or give some bullshit excuse about not being ready to meet up yet, but I could continue to keep texting them if I wanted to (which is pretty much email limbo).

Here's my theory.  If a girl's really attracted to you, she'll meet up with you, pretty much within the same week of you talking to her.   If she takes any longer than that, she's "just not that into you", you might just be on the backburner indefinitely while she scopes out as many other options as she can.   I hope you guys reading this all understand this point I'm trying to make.   I know sometimes, I think to myself-- maybe this girl is 'different', we have something 'special'... hence I will wait for her...  because she's worth the wait.    And what happens is, I break the rules I make for myself as a PUA.    After all, doesn't every guy here want to have that 'Hollywood movie' feeling where you broke all the rules, because she was the ONE, and in the end it was worth all the pain, suffering and humiliation?!  Lol.

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You can't break the rules man, it is insanity when you start breaking rules.   Point in case, I happened to see on Facebook that this girl had announced to the entire world she was partying it up at some bar.  I was basking in my depression on Friday night, basically just watching re-runs of X-files in my underwear while it was raining outside, plus binge eating Chipotle which I shouldn't have done.   Then suddenly, I got the idea to go run out to that bar, and see what my silent ass online bitch of a girlfriend was up to -- this might be the only chance I had to meet her in real life.    Maybe, just maybe I might run into her, take her by surprise, woo her in front of all her friends with my amazing game, and then we'd make sweet love like two star-crossed lovers that finally found each other under the moon-light.    :)

Like a mad-man, an INSANE mad-man... I said to myself FUCK IT, I am an adventurous man.. I don't GIVE A SHIT if it's raining outside, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT if I die in a freak accident, I DON'T EVEN GIVE A SHIT if she turns my fucking ass down in that damn bar.   I JUST WANT TO FIND CLOSURE, and no matter how shitty the night turns out, I'M GOING TO GIVE IT MY ALL and have a fucking awesome time doing this.   So I threw on my awesome clothes and jumped into my awesome car, the only thing I had going for me -- was my awesome sidekick Google Maps and an address to the bar from awesome Yelp.    I didn't even know if she would be there, but I didn't care.   This was my awesome medicine.

Turns out, she WAS there.   AND, she was with a guy; 'not' her friends like her Facebook profile had gloriously stated.  It was like date night or something.   She didn't see me though as I walked in.   I didn't see her immediately either, but as I got a drink, I noticed her out of the corner of my eye with that dude.   And I knew it was her-- I knew her face long enough from months of online email chains to recognize it anywhere.   So I decided to play it casual.   I was like, fuck it-- I'll just chill, have a couple drinks, get to know people in this bar, and then non-chalantly greet her at some point in the night.    It was already 10:30, which of course is EARLY in LA; people don't tend to leave til 1 or 2:30AM; I still had plenty of time.   PLUS, I needed to sarge.   I just knew I was too depressed lately and had to get some cold approaches outta my system to warm up-- especially if I was gonna cause drama later :)

For the most part, my night initially was okay-- I just did my basic routines of sitting next to girls, interrupting their conversation, picking out which one was the cutest and then making up reasons as to why I was in 'love at first sight'.   Like Pokemon, it was super effective on some, and not very effective on others-- especially the lipstick lesbians I hit on.   But hey, I've got this new thing, where I play it cool no matter what happens-- even if I get hit by a lesbian firestorm, I'm just everyone's friend at the bar in the end.   I did a lot of hand-shaking and self-introductions, which made people very open and friendly.   Along the way began to I look like I was just as important at anybody at that bar; some people thought I was a regular and asked me for drink recommendations (how's that for walking into an unknown bar by yourself close to the middle of the night?).   One guy even bought me a beer, and wanted get fucked up on Jameson Whiskey because he was so intrigued by how many girls I had been talking to that night.   Let's call him the drunk Irishman.  He was a good wingman alright.

As drunk Irish and I were talking, this girl came by and asked us for our chair (let's call her Chair girl).  I told her she could have it if she talked to us for 1 minute exactly.   She was like, "DEAL".   We had instant chemistry from the get-go.  I told Chair girl about the situation with my 'online' girl-- all the emails, rapport, then suddenly how she went silent-- and now was here in this bar on a whim, and how I was showcasing psychotic behavior by spying on her now.   Chair girl was intrigued, I asked her for her advice as to what I should do... "Should I go up to her now and raise all hell like a madman, or should I just play it totally cool and congratulate them both in very sarcastic way?"  Either way, I didn't care lol, I was ready to cause fire and brimstone-- lol.

Chair girl laughed and told me to play it cool, to be 'nice', but yah-- definitely go over and say 'hi, just to make friendly.. maybe something will come out of it'.   Drunk Irish wingman was like, DUDE, go up to her and be like "FUCK YOU! LOLLL.  Fingers out and everything..".   Drunk Irish's advice on getting girls horny for him is to be a total dick; "you get them interested.. then you tell to FUCK OFF".   So I thought, hmm maybe I'll combine these two pearls of wisdom.  

The moment of TRUTH-- I walked over to online girl, and all this history we had, all those emails, all the rapport, and then the sudden silence-- all that anticipation, as if I were resurrected back to life for some unfinished business-- it all flashed in my head as I looked her dead in the eye, and said "Hey.."

As I saw the color drain from her face, she weakly said 'hey' back and tried to be dismissive.   But I continued to look her dead in the eye, and I said to her, "Hey... I know you."  She was like "Yeahh..."  I continued, "Do you know who I am?"  She was like "Yeahhh..."  I saw her crack a smile on her face, probably because I was coming in so stern looking, with almost a hint of ridicule in my demeanor.   I continued to be borderline stern/borderline ridiculous.

Me: "I said, DO you know who I am?"

Online Girl: "Haha, yeahh.. You're Cloud."

Me: "That's right.  And youuuu are Online Girl.  I was just hanging here with my friends, but then I noticed out of the corner of my eye... someone familiar"

OG: "Hahah, really? "

Me: "Is this your date? Is this the lucky guy you ditched me for... the one you went silent for??"

OG: "Hahaha, yeah, this is my date..."

Me: "Hey buddy, I'm Cloud, what's your name?"

Guy: "I'm (trust me, I don't give a shit what his name was -- but for the record it sounded like Frankenstein or some shit... fitting)".

So I continued to be ridiculous and somewhat angry, kind of a mix of Irish's dicklike advice and Chair's sweet personality; I was pretty sweet overall though in the end with Online girl.   I gave her crap for ditching me, but her reason was "She got busy" and the the truth eventually came out... "She just wasn't that into me."  So fair enough, I got closure, but yah what a bitch... :/  She could have told me that from the beginning.

I told her I was going to defriend her on Facebook.   I continued to give her those same funny/stern looks, so she kept laughing.   "I'll do it", I said.. "I'm totally defriending you right now.. you've insulted my honor tonight."   She laughed, "Do it, okay do it haha." I told her though, "I'll probably leave a small window of opportunity for you.   Just a small one though.. you have time to hit me up before I defriend you completely."  She laughed and said "Okay lol."  Then I bid Frankenstein and her a good rest of the night and came back to drink it up with Irish and chair girl.

What ensued next was beyond crazy-- drunk Irish and I got shit wasted, we fucking sarged every chick at the bar, made out with ridiculous amounts of girls, finger fucked Chair girl at the bar, then Irish got totally shit faced and threw up all over the place. The bar staff kicked us out, and drunk Irish was too drunk to find his own car which he lived inside of, so Chair girl cussed the fuck out at me for being a 'douche bag friend' and not driving him home; I was just too drunk myself and hitting on girls everywhere.   I sent Chair on a wild goose chase to find Irish's car while I snuck back inside to hit on more girls, but then I got kicked out again.

Finally Chair girl came back and asked me to help her really figure out what to do with Irish-- so we left him at some random motel, knocked on someone's door, and then ran away as he slumped to the ground passed out.   (We did call 911 tho, it was Chair girl's idea in the case the guy was poisoned or something-- so you can say we had our moment of good samaritan).   I tried to make out with Chair girl after, but she threw me out of her car and I ended up back at the bar like a drunken fool-- don't anyone say I'm not a good drunk :)

Oh yeah, and Online girl messaged me back finally on Facebook saying how she thought I was so funny.   I defriended her anyway :)  Bitch.  

Closing/Thoughts:

I'm pretty much done with online dating in general.  I guess as of late, watching Californication (and idolizing Hank Moody's lifestyle), plus listening to RSD Tyler's videos about how much fun going out is-- I just want to get back into being outside and hitting on girls; classic Cloud style.   There's just so much more fun and interaction that takes place with real world conversation than that of online.

Online was interesting to me because I thought I could screen and meet girls who seemed more decent than ones from the bar... ones mom could approve of right?  However, it became sort of a replacement for going out-- and it started to make me more 'needy' than usual.   Especially like in the report above, I became so needy for that girl to reply back to me.   In the real world, if this girl and I met, we could have had our banter, and I could have either gone more forward with her or she could have told me she wasn't interested (thus huge amounts of time wouldn't have been wasted).

In my opinion, that's the single biggest reason I defriended her; I don't like a girl who doesn't respect a guy's time.   Even if we had some laughs in the end, she was still a bitch for not having any courtesy to give me a heads up as to whether she really wanted to go out or not.   So I would never really want to get back with her; I'm sure the relationship would just be more of that shit.   I told her 'guy date' last night pretty much the same thing in jest-- "watch out this girl made me waste 53 emails with her just to bail out; she could put you through the wringer too".  

So yah, in a nutshell- I just don't want to continue emailing back and forth, or even texting back and forth without ever meeting up in real life.  I'm going to stick to my standards, and that's basically this:

3 strikes for every girl I meet-- if you reject my first invitation out; Strike 1; if I try to work again with your schedule and you reject still; Strike 2.

If she rejected 2 times, I pretty much don't text/email again.  A lot of girls I met in the past continued to text me about random nonsense, but never wanted to hang out-- Online girl was kinda like that too-- they felt 'uncomfortable still' in meeting up, and wanted to find out more about me first through email or text.... which is pretty much BS.   Remember if a girl really likes you, she'll find a way to hang out with you (make the time for it).   If she's unsure, it just means your game sucked-- and she's not that into you as you'd wish she'd be.    Trying to 'win' her through further text and email is the recipe for failure :)

I think if you get to 2 strikes with a girl, just know in your head already to move on.  Find other girls; in fact it might be wise to go 'silent' yourself on this girl.   Don't be petty, don't try to 'friendzone' her, just go completely dark-- basically it's for your own sanity (you don't want to give an iota of thought to this girl).   If she goes out of her way to invite herself into your life, then you can talk about going out-- but if she flakes then too, Strike 3; it's over.  

Finally, don't Facebook friend girls you haven't hung out with in real life.  Don't give out any information she doesn't need to know, unless she earned your trust in real life.

Face it, whether you like it or not, girls are going to say one thing and do another.   That's life man.   Girls might tell you they love you at one moment, only to break your heart the next.   You just gotta stop expecting things to go your way all the time; and just be open to the fact that anything goes with dating.   I think if you can take any kind of rejection, no matter how painful, you can start having fun and turning shit upside down its head :)

Good luck!

Cloud