After thinking about my kiss with the Asian chick from Boiler Room, I got to thinking.. it was really freaking simple. Just pull her in and kiss her. Even if you miss, you still got her, and just pull her in again and keep going.
In fact, the more you kiss her (provided she's at least somewhat attracted to you and enjoying the series of kisses), the easier it gets to do every consecutive time. Plus, she gets turned on EXTREMELY FAST by it. It's a huge BT spiker.
I can support this theory because all the girls I kissed in this manner ended up being my girlfriend for a while. It's not just a peck on the cheek that counts. You need to kiss a lot. She needs to love it... then she'll start doing it back. Then the kisses become romantic and slower after time.. because it feels more natural to do; the ice is broken.
The perfect way to segue after kissing a girl and prevent buyer's remorse is to say "I wouldn't normally do that, but because it was you.. I felt a little crazy and wanted to indulge in the moment with you." This line is gold.. because as long as you're honest and you do really feel that way about the girl, she'll feel it too. It's authentic and she won't think you're a player who does that to every girl. Which is true, because if you did it to every girl... well every girl would know you in that damn bar ;). I used this line on the girl from the bar and things have been great.. she didn't get buyer's remorse and wants to meet up again this weekend.
So in conclusion.. KISS (Keep it Simple Stupid). Don't think too much about how to kiss, just do it when you have the opportunity.. and if she likes it, do it again.. be a little crazy!!
Welcome to my collection of internet thoughts. I got into pickup because I was always in the friend zone with all the girls I used to hang out with. Using the techniques I finally got laid at 27, and have been on an awesome journey since. These are my stories. :)
Tuesday, November 23, 2010
Monday, November 22, 2010
FR - Welcome Back to Sarging 11-17-10
This weekend, I was out for three days practicing my game. I had been out of the scene for a while, mostly because I was giving more attention to improving my lifestyle and trying my hand at online game.
I would say in retrospect, the time off was well worth it -- I did improve my own 'life' a lot more; I worked out harder, overcame some mental challenges, became more image conscious, as well as started some freelance work which I'm proud of. In a nutshell, I have a lot more I can talk about to others when I'm introducing myself for the first time. That's really cool.
As for online game, I've reached a point where I can get a couple day2s per month. I still have a problem escalating on these girls I meet though… mainly because I invested so much time in trying to get them to come out, I have this old fear like I'm going to lose whatever I worked so hard to get super fast. Escalation with girls I meet online is something I want to get better at.
I think that's why I've decided to go back to the club… whenever I was there, I could run my stuff in real time and quickly move to escalation. I've sorta lost that art now. Plus, online is crappy as a substitute to meeting girls in real life -- there's so many more chances to get ignored, blown out, be on the receiving end for bad behavior -- and we as guys have to tolerate it all in hopes of getting a girl to come out and give us a chance. Talk about the ultimate form of putting a girl on a pedestal. That's why I need a break from it.
Here's my first FR -- which is for Friday night. I'll post Saturday and Sunday separately.
On Friday night, I went out with Austin to Downtown Redlands. Ace of Spades joined our team a little bit later. From the get go, Austin wasted no time in conversing with the girls in line. He was going going going. I, on the other hand, felt a lot of uncertainty. Maybe it was AA, but I thought to myself at the time, I need to overcome this. I began saying whatever I could too, but my results were a lot lamer. I decided to just wing Austin and observe until I felt comfortable enough to approach on my own. He did really well in creating connections with girls right away. He connected fairly easy with a black girl who he played the whole 'black girls love white cocks' routine on. The other people in line egged it on, so he had the crowd to help him in that respect. I tried to hit on the mexican girl friend with the black chick who was a bit more dirty, but I felt like she wasn't really my type over time.
There were some rude bitches too in line.. Austin was using cocky/funny stuff, and I guess one Asian girl decided to chew him out for trying to 'talk to her' as if she was his friend. "Do I know you? Don't talk to me! I don't know you bitch!", she fronted. We turned our backs to her, and she continued to rant while everyone stared at her for being the unfunny, uncool Asian bitch at the club. I'm always so sad when I meet girls like this, especially Asian -- I used to hold them in so much high regard because you always see them as the nice, desirable girl next door in the movies and drama. I guess there's a huge gap between what's reality and what's fantasy.
He opened a set of latina girls who were really into him, because by now he had social proof from the black chick and some of the other people in line. This set went pretty well until the black chick tugged him back to her, so Austin told me to continue working the group. I did what I could, but they went back to talking amongst themselves. Talk about jumping into cold water.
Still, I decided I wouldn't be hard on myself - just do the best I could with what I had, and grow. Austin's on another level, and I can only improve in the level I'm at. With regards to my overall look, I looked pretty good - I had a pretty good jacket, B-boy hat and nice jeans. We took the black girl and her mexican friend into the dance hall where we proceeded to dance with them. Austin started to grind the black chick, while I tried to dance with the mexican. It got awkward fast, mainly cause there wasn't any attraction, so I left her and went about the dance floor looking to hook a girl of my own.
Actually, this is where I did really good. Since I had been practicing different routines with my dance instructor, I was able to use them to bait and reel girls to dance around me. That was pretty awesome. If girls sense you have an ability to move to the beat and look semi cool doing it, their interest radars kick in and they look at you. You know it because they smile more, they make double eye contact and are open if you move in closer to them. Of course, I learned later -- if you move in too close, it kills it because it seems like you're a predator. You gotta take it slow and invite them into YOUR 'bubble of love'. The closer they get, the more you back up and invite them in, until their body is close to yours, and then you grab and exude dominance. It can't be 80% dominance and some hesitance. It has to be 100% confident. If you hesitate, it breaks the spell that you cast over them with your hypnotic dance moves.. and they push you away from them.
The first girl I danced with asked me my name as we danced together. IOI. I told her in her ear, and tried to maintain proximity. She smiled but she also pushed me slightly. I backed off a little.. she came in closer. We danced for a while at about arm's length from each other, the most I could do was hold her hand slightly. I did some body rocks away to get her to come in closer. She was actually pretty hot; but every time I wanted to exert dominance, she pushed away. Finally I lost interest and another girl who saw us dancing came in to dance with me too. She was a lot more dominant than me, and really hot. I couldn't keep up, and eventually moved on. The girl from before also was taking off, so we hugged and we just said we'll see each other next time at the bar. We shared a moment -- of platonic love lol, and that was it.
The next set, I found Austin dancing with some white chick, who was pretty cute. I danced with her Asian friend. At first, it was a bit awkward, but then I turned her around and we began grinding. At first it was slow, and I just kept to beat while leading, which helped her trust me a lot more and open up more. I guess if a girl feels like you really can dance and make her feel good with it, her sexual side will take over and let you keep going. As the beat got stronger, I was able to use that to my advantage and exert some force into the dance. She really liked it, and it felt a lot like sex. That's when you know you're doing great.. cause the girl's BT goes way up.. the whole concept of women are sexually frustrated and crave it comes into complete play on the dance floor. You just have to earn her trust first.. and that's the whole bait and hook concept I'm talking about here.
After dancing with the Asian, Austin wanted to barhop, so we were about to go, but the Asian girl tugged on me and wanted to know where I was going. She wanted to know more about me, so I flirted around a bit, before telling her she'd remember me as the guy who kissed her in the club. I grabbed her by the arms and pulled her in for a kiss. I hit some teeth, but she loved it. "OMG!!!" she screamed with delight. "You like that huh?" I grabbed her again and kissed her again. She was blushing red. I made her night. I body rocked as if I was going with Austin, who was doing a great job of screaming "Let's go!". She wanted me to stay still, so I asked her for her number. She gave it, but seemed hesitant too that I'd forget her. I told her I'd keep in touch. She's also not from around Redlands, and lives in Irvine, so we just made future plans through text to meet up at some point. I think it's going to be hard to meet up, since Irvine is far.. and the initial attraction we had is slowly fading because she's starting to apologize for what happened in texts. Any thoughts? I told her I was glad to meet her and when I usually meet someone as sweet as her I feel compelled to do those things to her in the moment -- which prompted her to say 'Aww.. you're so sweet back'. I guess this was a good direction.
Ace and his friend joined up with us after the first bar, which was Boiler Room, btw.. sorry lol. We walked around doing a bunch of hoot calls to hot chicks. We went to some other bars, but the crowds were more guys than girls, and there were a lot more grenades than girls. I felt more in state, and began to flirt with girls on my own. I talked to an Indian chick and almost kissed her (I had my arms around her and she super giggling) until I found out the dude watching us was her boyfriend. I felt so sorry for him, so I told him gave him some value back and told him I wasn't going to take his girlfriend away. He was very happy for it. He was so scared.. lol. I told him it doesn't matter who your girl talks to at the bar as long as you know she's going home with you the same night. We all had a good laugh.
I ended up doing it again at the Vault… I saw a hot girl, told her she was the most beautiful girl in the room, flirted more, grabbin her and almost kissing her until her boyfriend came in, and even then he also didn't do anything. His jaw was just open. I decided to be nice and just ask.. cause I felt that vibe, and even though the girl loved what I was doing, she reluctantly said yah.. he's my boyfriend. Fuck. So many couples. I'm not a homewrecker, so I gave the dude value and told him to hold onto his girl, 'cause I might have taken her away if he wasn't looking. She loved that response a lot, so I some more friends.
Some white fatty chick saw me doing all this and wanted me to dance with her. She tried to get me to share her vodka tonic, but I was like no thanks. I danced around a bit, trying to use more dance game, but there were too many distractions. Ace wanted help with a set, so I followed him for a while, then we went back to the other bars. I opened another white chick with "The back of yo' head is ridiculous!!!" She didn't get the reference, so I explained to her it was a skit on Youtube and to look it up. Nonetheless, she liked how I was so playful, and proceeded to use that line on me the next time she saw me walking around. I jumped outta fear, cause I had no idea who was behind me. The back of my head was indeed ridiculous. She was a grenade tho.. :/ But I guess practice is practice though.
Finally, we boys called it a night… we decided to get smashed at Austin's place and bought some cheap wine. We talked about game for hours until Austin's mom got involved and yelled at us to turn out the lights. :P Next day, Austin and I talked about game some more, then I went off to my place to prepare for a night in LA.
Recap/Thoughts:
----------------------
- I'm glad to be back. It's fun to flirt, and I feel like it brings out the best in people. When you say 'hi' or 'excuse me'.. it elicits a platonic response. No one typically gives an attractive response in replying to 'excuse me'.
You really can't get much further in escalation if you're just platonic in approach. If you want attraction, you're going to have to say or do things that make her laugh or get mad.. it's risky, but that's the way it goes. The more risk you take, the more chance for reward. I was well rewarded tonight, and as I continued to develop my flirting muscle, I went on to being rewarded more for Saturday and Sunday.. so I just gotta keep this positive mindset in gear. It's truly an art.
- If you fail, no problem, at least you're trying -- it's so much worse to sit in at home and sulk how you have no girls in your life and let time pass you by. At least as long as you're out there trying, it's something positive.. and even if you die trying.. you can say you died a valiant solider like in the army.
- Even if I spend my life just kissing girls at a bar, that's good enough for me.. I can live with that kind of life rather than sitting at home wishing I was with a hot girl instead.
- More FRs coming!
I would say in retrospect, the time off was well worth it -- I did improve my own 'life' a lot more; I worked out harder, overcame some mental challenges, became more image conscious, as well as started some freelance work which I'm proud of. In a nutshell, I have a lot more I can talk about to others when I'm introducing myself for the first time. That's really cool.
As for online game, I've reached a point where I can get a couple day2s per month. I still have a problem escalating on these girls I meet though… mainly because I invested so much time in trying to get them to come out, I have this old fear like I'm going to lose whatever I worked so hard to get super fast. Escalation with girls I meet online is something I want to get better at.
I think that's why I've decided to go back to the club… whenever I was there, I could run my stuff in real time and quickly move to escalation. I've sorta lost that art now. Plus, online is crappy as a substitute to meeting girls in real life -- there's so many more chances to get ignored, blown out, be on the receiving end for bad behavior -- and we as guys have to tolerate it all in hopes of getting a girl to come out and give us a chance. Talk about the ultimate form of putting a girl on a pedestal. That's why I need a break from it.
Here's my first FR -- which is for Friday night. I'll post Saturday and Sunday separately.
On Friday night, I went out with Austin to Downtown Redlands. Ace of Spades joined our team a little bit later. From the get go, Austin wasted no time in conversing with the girls in line. He was going going going. I, on the other hand, felt a lot of uncertainty. Maybe it was AA, but I thought to myself at the time, I need to overcome this. I began saying whatever I could too, but my results were a lot lamer. I decided to just wing Austin and observe until I felt comfortable enough to approach on my own. He did really well in creating connections with girls right away. He connected fairly easy with a black girl who he played the whole 'black girls love white cocks' routine on. The other people in line egged it on, so he had the crowd to help him in that respect. I tried to hit on the mexican girl friend with the black chick who was a bit more dirty, but I felt like she wasn't really my type over time.
There were some rude bitches too in line.. Austin was using cocky/funny stuff, and I guess one Asian girl decided to chew him out for trying to 'talk to her' as if she was his friend. "Do I know you? Don't talk to me! I don't know you bitch!", she fronted. We turned our backs to her, and she continued to rant while everyone stared at her for being the unfunny, uncool Asian bitch at the club. I'm always so sad when I meet girls like this, especially Asian -- I used to hold them in so much high regard because you always see them as the nice, desirable girl next door in the movies and drama. I guess there's a huge gap between what's reality and what's fantasy.
He opened a set of latina girls who were really into him, because by now he had social proof from the black chick and some of the other people in line. This set went pretty well until the black chick tugged him back to her, so Austin told me to continue working the group. I did what I could, but they went back to talking amongst themselves. Talk about jumping into cold water.
Still, I decided I wouldn't be hard on myself - just do the best I could with what I had, and grow. Austin's on another level, and I can only improve in the level I'm at. With regards to my overall look, I looked pretty good - I had a pretty good jacket, B-boy hat and nice jeans. We took the black girl and her mexican friend into the dance hall where we proceeded to dance with them. Austin started to grind the black chick, while I tried to dance with the mexican. It got awkward fast, mainly cause there wasn't any attraction, so I left her and went about the dance floor looking to hook a girl of my own.
Actually, this is where I did really good. Since I had been practicing different routines with my dance instructor, I was able to use them to bait and reel girls to dance around me. That was pretty awesome. If girls sense you have an ability to move to the beat and look semi cool doing it, their interest radars kick in and they look at you. You know it because they smile more, they make double eye contact and are open if you move in closer to them. Of course, I learned later -- if you move in too close, it kills it because it seems like you're a predator. You gotta take it slow and invite them into YOUR 'bubble of love'. The closer they get, the more you back up and invite them in, until their body is close to yours, and then you grab and exude dominance. It can't be 80% dominance and some hesitance. It has to be 100% confident. If you hesitate, it breaks the spell that you cast over them with your hypnotic dance moves.. and they push you away from them.
The first girl I danced with asked me my name as we danced together. IOI. I told her in her ear, and tried to maintain proximity. She smiled but she also pushed me slightly. I backed off a little.. she came in closer. We danced for a while at about arm's length from each other, the most I could do was hold her hand slightly. I did some body rocks away to get her to come in closer. She was actually pretty hot; but every time I wanted to exert dominance, she pushed away. Finally I lost interest and another girl who saw us dancing came in to dance with me too. She was a lot more dominant than me, and really hot. I couldn't keep up, and eventually moved on. The girl from before also was taking off, so we hugged and we just said we'll see each other next time at the bar. We shared a moment -- of platonic love lol, and that was it.
The next set, I found Austin dancing with some white chick, who was pretty cute. I danced with her Asian friend. At first, it was a bit awkward, but then I turned her around and we began grinding. At first it was slow, and I just kept to beat while leading, which helped her trust me a lot more and open up more. I guess if a girl feels like you really can dance and make her feel good with it, her sexual side will take over and let you keep going. As the beat got stronger, I was able to use that to my advantage and exert some force into the dance. She really liked it, and it felt a lot like sex. That's when you know you're doing great.. cause the girl's BT goes way up.. the whole concept of women are sexually frustrated and crave it comes into complete play on the dance floor. You just have to earn her trust first.. and that's the whole bait and hook concept I'm talking about here.
After dancing with the Asian, Austin wanted to barhop, so we were about to go, but the Asian girl tugged on me and wanted to know where I was going. She wanted to know more about me, so I flirted around a bit, before telling her she'd remember me as the guy who kissed her in the club. I grabbed her by the arms and pulled her in for a kiss. I hit some teeth, but she loved it. "OMG!!!" she screamed with delight. "You like that huh?" I grabbed her again and kissed her again. She was blushing red. I made her night. I body rocked as if I was going with Austin, who was doing a great job of screaming "Let's go!". She wanted me to stay still, so I asked her for her number. She gave it, but seemed hesitant too that I'd forget her. I told her I'd keep in touch. She's also not from around Redlands, and lives in Irvine, so we just made future plans through text to meet up at some point. I think it's going to be hard to meet up, since Irvine is far.. and the initial attraction we had is slowly fading because she's starting to apologize for what happened in texts. Any thoughts? I told her I was glad to meet her and when I usually meet someone as sweet as her I feel compelled to do those things to her in the moment -- which prompted her to say 'Aww.. you're so sweet back'. I guess this was a good direction.
Ace and his friend joined up with us after the first bar, which was Boiler Room, btw.. sorry lol. We walked around doing a bunch of hoot calls to hot chicks. We went to some other bars, but the crowds were more guys than girls, and there were a lot more grenades than girls. I felt more in state, and began to flirt with girls on my own. I talked to an Indian chick and almost kissed her (I had my arms around her and she super giggling) until I found out the dude watching us was her boyfriend. I felt so sorry for him, so I told him gave him some value back and told him I wasn't going to take his girlfriend away. He was very happy for it. He was so scared.. lol. I told him it doesn't matter who your girl talks to at the bar as long as you know she's going home with you the same night. We all had a good laugh.
I ended up doing it again at the Vault… I saw a hot girl, told her she was the most beautiful girl in the room, flirted more, grabbin her and almost kissing her until her boyfriend came in, and even then he also didn't do anything. His jaw was just open. I decided to be nice and just ask.. cause I felt that vibe, and even though the girl loved what I was doing, she reluctantly said yah.. he's my boyfriend. Fuck. So many couples. I'm not a homewrecker, so I gave the dude value and told him to hold onto his girl, 'cause I might have taken her away if he wasn't looking. She loved that response a lot, so I some more friends.
Some white fatty chick saw me doing all this and wanted me to dance with her. She tried to get me to share her vodka tonic, but I was like no thanks. I danced around a bit, trying to use more dance game, but there were too many distractions. Ace wanted help with a set, so I followed him for a while, then we went back to the other bars. I opened another white chick with "The back of yo' head is ridiculous!!!" She didn't get the reference, so I explained to her it was a skit on Youtube and to look it up. Nonetheless, she liked how I was so playful, and proceeded to use that line on me the next time she saw me walking around. I jumped outta fear, cause I had no idea who was behind me. The back of my head was indeed ridiculous. She was a grenade tho.. :/ But I guess practice is practice though.
Finally, we boys called it a night… we decided to get smashed at Austin's place and bought some cheap wine. We talked about game for hours until Austin's mom got involved and yelled at us to turn out the lights. :P Next day, Austin and I talked about game some more, then I went off to my place to prepare for a night in LA.
Recap/Thoughts:
----------------------
- I'm glad to be back. It's fun to flirt, and I feel like it brings out the best in people. When you say 'hi' or 'excuse me'.. it elicits a platonic response. No one typically gives an attractive response in replying to 'excuse me'.
You really can't get much further in escalation if you're just platonic in approach. If you want attraction, you're going to have to say or do things that make her laugh or get mad.. it's risky, but that's the way it goes. The more risk you take, the more chance for reward. I was well rewarded tonight, and as I continued to develop my flirting muscle, I went on to being rewarded more for Saturday and Sunday.. so I just gotta keep this positive mindset in gear. It's truly an art.
- If you fail, no problem, at least you're trying -- it's so much worse to sit in at home and sulk how you have no girls in your life and let time pass you by. At least as long as you're out there trying, it's something positive.. and even if you die trying.. you can say you died a valiant solider like in the army.
- Even if I spend my life just kissing girls at a bar, that's good enough for me.. I can live with that kind of life rather than sitting at home wishing I was with a hot girl instead.
- More FRs coming!
Tuesday, November 16, 2010
When She Wants To Be "Friends First"
One of the better posts I've read on Askmen.com. Very good advice.
http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove_60/75_relationship_expert.html
http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove_60/75_relationship_expert.html
Monday, November 15, 2010
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